I installed everything as its supposed to looking through other threads the files are exactly where they need to be i can telent through windows command prompt but when i start the server the server light goes green then the telnet turns yellow for a few seconds and goes to red and allocs and bcm show read also... when i telneted into the server and ran version it showed allocs and bcm in there... kinda tired and headed to bed but will pick up tomorrow anyone have any ideas..?